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  • May. 6th, 2009 at 9:59 PM
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I haven't read the book because it never appealed, but I thought I'd try the DVD (reason being it takes less time to watch a movie). We watched it over two nights because I kept nodding off to sleep during the first half. (It was that gripping.) The second half was much better, though. I thought it only took off when Bella went home to meet Edward's family. And at the end I was quite interested to know what will happen next. What will happen between Edward and the young Native American lad whose name I have forgotten? And what was the female vampire (Victoria?) who appeared at the end up to? I'm almost tempted to read the second book in the saga to find out.

However, I have realised just how little I know about vampires. I didn't realise, for example, that they don't eat or drink. Or sleep. Or that they could move so fast or play baseball so well. Or that they could tell what people are thinking. I don't think I've actually read a book about vampires, not even Dracula. I don't think I've ever watched a vampire movie either. So no wonder I didn't know how much was based on vampire myth and how much had been made up by Stephanie Meyer.

Why are people so into vampires at the moment? The YA shelves are crammed full of books with titles like Vampire Academy. I'm not sure I really get it. And why is sex with a vampire such a very desirable thing?

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[info]arky72 wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 12:58 pm (UTC)
I don't know anything about vampires either, and somehow it's just never appealed. I've never read a book, watched a film or seen any of the Buffy or other tv shows so you're not on your own!
[info]witchy_rachel wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
And I'll make a third!

My daughter is *really* into the Twilight series at present, and I'm glad in one way because at least it's books! She watched the film and wanted to know more so decided to read the entire saga in a week. (Doe it show how chuffed I am that she is reading?!?)

Wonder if it ties into your other theory though Liz - Fantasy to cross geographic boundaries? Vampires are recogniseable characters and can act in their own vampirical way without having to conform to any particular secular society?
[info]lizarfau wrote:
May. 7th, 2009 03:02 am (UTC)
I'd be happy if I had a teenage daughter who was into the books. They're aimed at teenagers, after all, and it's good there's something out there they want to read.

Yes, I think you're right - vampires do cross boundaries, so readers from all nations can identify with them.
[info]lizarfau wrote:
May. 7th, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
I haven't seen Buffy either!
[info]bookwormsarah wrote:
May. 6th, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
I was thinking about this on my way to work this morning and came to the conclusion that I like my vampires Joss-versified or not at all... I read a couple of Anne Rice books but wasn't keen, and somehow I picture Twilight as Virginia-Andrews-minus-incest-plus-vamps. I enjoyed 'The Lost Boys' (we watched it lots of times at college), and Dracula is wonderfully creepy. The Dracula Experience at Whitby is so hysterically bad that I recommend it wholeheartedly.

Random vampirical thoughts for you!
[info]lizarfau wrote:
May. 7th, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
I do like that description of the books. Virginia Andrews minus incest plus vampires! :-)
[info]mimmimmim wrote:
May. 11th, 2009 07:54 am (UTC)
Ha! You're onto one of my specialist subjects here. (I'm a freelance SF/ fantasy book reviewer.)

Generally, the skills of the vampire depend on what the writer particularly needs their character to do. Some eat and drink, some don't. Some have to sleep on their native soil, some don't. Turning into bats/wolves/mist appears to depend entirely on the author's whim, as does the vampire's ability to move by day.

The more romantic the novel, the more likely the author is to do away with inconveniences such as bad breath, longer nails and being a walking dead person...

You can go back to Polidori's The Vampyre to find a romantic sort of vampire - quite literally a Byronic hero; Polidori had been Byron's physician - and Le Fanu's Carmilla also has a dreamy romanticism. Fanged Superstud as a concept really came in in the late 1970s, mainly as a result of Anne Rice's 'Interview With the Vampire', although other writers like Chelsea Quinn Yarbro were leaning that way.
[info]lizarfau wrote:
May. 11th, 2009 10:00 am (UTC)
Aha! An expert!

I'm not really into fantasy, though there have been a few books I've enjoyed in that genre. I like a world to be recognisable, hence I enjoyed the early Harry Potters (because he was in a normal world, then went off to school to learn to use his magic) and I have also enjoyed some urban fantasy (I enjoyed Hex, even when it got totally mad). I also loved drageon1's The Two Pearls of Wisdom, because it sort of was China. It's the LOTR-type stuff, where nothing's really recognisable, that kills it for me.

Thanks for the info on vampires! It sounds as if most of Twilight was based on Stephanie Meyer's needs as opposed to anything mythical about these beings.
[info]mimmimmim wrote:
May. 11th, 2009 12:25 pm (UTC)
If you like fantasy with realism, I heartily recommend Diana Wynne Jones' novels. They don't all have strong real-world settings, although in many of them there are several worlds and people can travel between them (eg Howl's Moving Castle, where Howl is actually Hywel from Wales!). What DWJ does have is oodles of good plain sense, in a very classic headmistressy sort of way. There's something very 1950s about a lot of her writing, and I mean that in a good way.

There's so much more to fantasy and SF than people realise. Certain sectors have an awful lot of dross - space opera, genre fantasy and military SF spring to mind and they're what people generally react against, but even they have good stuff.

Twilight's a vampire book I haven't actually read, but Meyer has taken some stick for pushing a Mormon agenda in the books or for pushing a pro-abstinence (sexual) stance. (I'm not qualified to comment on either.) The books haven't appealed to me, as I almost always loathe romances that cross into SF/fantasy, and the 'forbidden love' trope has been played out in vampire novels for decades, to the point where it's now utterly tedious, and I decided Teen Vampire Forbidden Twoo Wuv would be a step too far...
[info]lizarfau wrote:
May. 12th, 2009 01:08 pm (UTC)
I've heard lots of good things about Diana Wynne Jones. I did try one (Witch Week?) but couldn't get into it. I will have to try one of her others.

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